Making a Magnetic LOOP-antenna with a Variabel VACUUM-Condenser 10.10.2012 UPDATED: 31-12-2015 minor
Conclution: |
Gerlev, near Frederikssund, 12- 08-2013 |
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A MAG-LOOP is NO
competition to a full size dipole!
Is it an antenna ?,
Maybee, but only a if you have NO other option. The loop was
placed at the point on the picture herunder, and the full size dipole
was elevated into 30 feed above GND. I will NOT recommand this kind of antenna, if you in any way have the possibility to make a dipole, even a shorted dipole will perform better. END of STORY |
The EXPERIMENT
Planning a MAGNETIC LOOP-ANTENNA for use on 80, 60, 40 and 30 meter... ???
This page is my documentation on a project to make a MAG LOOP.
Reading all stuf on the
internet, to find the best solution...
This is a good place to start:
http://www.nonstopsystems.com/radio/frank_radio_antenna_magloop.htm
This page has a lot of Refferencis
to other descriptions of small Magnetic Loop-antennas, and a lot of "how to..."
Consulted K8NDS, Richard
Fusinski about his phantastik project...
More here:
http://www.hlmagneticloopantennas.com/
Richard has a some videos
available on YOUTUBE - Access some of them from his QRZ.COM... Thanks for
your input, Richard!!
Some tecnical reading about
LOOP-Antenna is
Small Loop Antenna
Efficiency in PDF.
First thing first... Get some material...
New PICTURES:
Picturen from 11.21.2012
The final MAG LOOP will be
this setup. Now, I still have some
noice-problem. I also have to figure out, how to the remote wire must go down to the shak. In this setup it is
more easy to find the perfect match-point for the feeding-loop,
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The REMOTE-BOX in place. | |||||||||||
A look from
EAST. The antenna is directed NORTH - SOUTH. |
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This is
the point on my ruff, with a quart wave dipole for 30 m.. is in place.
My ruff is made of steel,
making a good ground for any kind of antenna, and I am realy
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A used Jennings Variabel VACUUM-Condenser: | |||||||||||
This VACUUM-Condenser
is: (copy from Jennings homepage)
Measured: MAX: 381 pF Measured: MIN: 10 pF Lenght: 217 m.m. without STUB for the shaft Width: 75 m.m. |
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Video: A MOTOR to drive a Vacuum-Condenser (YOUTUBE) | 2 minuttes of video shoving the KURSMOTOR running | ||||||||||
Video: The finished REMOTE STEERING of the VACUUM Condenser (YOUTUBE) |
4 minuttes of video shoving the finished remote steering and how it works. | ||||||||||
A HAM-friend in spirit
have offered me this little engine from World War II. Used in German figther-fly to correct the kurs.
This engine have a very
fine GEAR, using 24 Volt and 75 watt, Now, must get it to fit.
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Was in STOCK in the
local HAM-club, for Dkr: 200,00 (40 US$).
Need a little cleaning before use.
Cleaning is DONE!!! |
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Wave-guide cabel: |
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The local HAM-club had
some picies of WAVE-GUIDE cabel. I got 6 meter for free... There was some grizy stuf between the isolation and the cobber. Easy to remowe with Terpentine.
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Measured 16 m.m. X 26
m.m. This cabel is very light and still flexible and strong. |
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As I expectet, this
cabel have possibility to hold the loop by it self. Here just supported with some STRIPS... I will have the
VACUUM-condenser mounted in the bottom, and make the the feed-point and
The bottom-mount of VACUUM-condenser will lower the weight-point, and make it possible to experiment. Now... Have to do some motor-experiments... |
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Servo stearing of the LOOP-Antenna Planning the Stearing: |
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A = LOOP Connecting
point 1 B = LOOP Connecting point 2 C = Vacuum Condenser D = PLEXIglass Wahl, 2 pcs. E = 10-turn Potentiometer, for frequensreading scala on instrument F = 1:2 Gearwheel G = Insolatated driveaxel with m.m. gevind H = Clutch K = KURSMOTOR L = Electric connetion Point M = PLEXIglass mounting rod |
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The princip would be, that
when the K-motor is turning ON, one way or the other, and turn the rod of
the VACUUM Condenser, a Gearwheel F:, 1:2 lower the 16 turn of Vaccum-Condenser to 8 turn on the E: 10 turn-Potentiometer, used to show a scala for relativ frequens, and to kipe an eye on where we are on the VACUUM-Condenser. The future plan will be, that a
PIC-processor will take care of logik, start and stop of K-motor,
mounted Addition to this project would
be, to put a display on the control-box, READ the frequens, and auto-TUNE the
LOOP-antenna. The
PIC-processor would be able to read tuning frequens, knowing last frequens, then
change Always good to have a PLAN... We must se what the time will bring.... |
10.17.2012
- For the moment I am working on the LOOP-Connection point 1 and 2. DONE! |
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10.23.2012 - Her is the PLAN-SETUP. Nothing is finished yet, but only the plan. The board of plexi-glass is 42 cm long, and 10 cm width.
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Just for
the PLAN...
The gearwheel just fit... |
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Just
enough room on the board...
Still to come - Holder of the KURSMOTOR could bee like this: Material: PLEXI-GLASS 14 m/m |
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Now, the LOOP-RODS is
finished. Just to get a pic. of kobber, with indside diameter of a half inc. 22 m.m. kost me 90 D.kr. ( 18 US$ ), to fit on the TOP
of Vacuum-Condenser, is a lot of money for I hope it is worth it... |
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A close-up foto of
Vacuum-Condenser with LOOP-connection rods.
In TOP of PAGE you will find a video of the finished remote steering af th vacuum-condenser. No I just have to VATERPROFF the BOX before I make the LOOP-Antenna.
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The Control BOX
I used an old box from
another project, with a meter build in, and some hulls in the
The 500 Volt meter will
later be calibrated with frequens-bands. An inside resistor Black NOP is a 1K
potentiometer to vary the voltage to the KURSMOTOR from app. Right to the POT. is POWER-ON button. In the bottom-left is
the cross-coubled switch for LEFT/RIGHT turning af the
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Just now, I works with some ACRYL to pak the REMOTE in, for WX-protection.
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This is the Balance-point, and the way it must be mounted on the mast.
FINISHED to day, 12.11.2012
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NEXT THING will be to setup the LOOP....
This is my TEST-SETUP, just for a TRY....
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Experimenting with the cublings-link
(this is NOT good...) |
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This is much
better, but not the best....
More pictures later... with more experiments... |
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On the
REVERSE BEACON NETWORK I can follow which station arround can hear my signal. This i result of 100 watt to the antenna - FIRST TRY - Places 1 meter over ground in the garden. The antenna is placed EAST - WEST. SWR say 1.05 on my Italian EXPERT 1K-fa, but I think the antenna is to close to my window, only 3 meter away from the shack, so 300 watt is MAX effekt, on 80 meter until The antenna get his place on the ruff. Today i got a glass-fiber rod. Originally a commercial
antenna, 4 meter long, used for the band 450 - 460 MHz Mobil-band.
More to come... |
More to come....